This blog is a forum for discussion of literature, rhetoric and composition for Ms. Parrish's AP Language and Composition class
Friday, February 12, 2010
Synthesizing Modernist Art: Modernism in Fiction, Poetry, Essays and Visual Art
Literary Modernism: Form and Content in A Moveable Feast
Thursday, February 11, 2010
Discussion Test (continuation)
What is the force that ties the characters to the town and make them incapable of ever truly leaving?
Wednesday, February 3, 2010
FUGUE!!!!!!!!! in THE HEART IS A LONELY HUNTER....and I'm talking about the emotions :)
Language and Responsibility: The Failure of Discourse in Carson McCuller’s The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter
While I really enjoyed the essay and I think it added another dimension to my reading of the text and makes me want to read on faster, I am left a little bit confused as well. It’s a nice essay but I think its going to take me some more time to mull it over in order to feel like I understand it better. Here are my disjointed thoughts and feeling on it as of now:
When Bradshaw is explaining the totalizing tendencies of the characters in the novel, he says: “Each individual, in private visits with Singer, had totalized him to such an extent that it is only possible for them to identify him as an extension of their individual Self” and I’m left wondering if he is suggesting that all people natural tendency to totalize others into understandable levels, or just the characters in this novel who are plagued with loneliness as a result of their isolating totalization of Singer. In other words, is Bradshaw arguing that people who succumb to totalizing another into an extension of the Self are bound to become lonely and isolated? Moreover, how does the concept of the Face fit into Bradshaw’s argument? He says, “For Levinas the face is not a material representation of the Other’s presence; instead it represents integral difference between the Self and the Other which cannot be conceptualized. Rather than identify this difference as physical Levinas suggests this relationship depends upon a recognition of the Face- a deeper, more essential manifestation of the Other’s difference from the Self.” If every Other has a face that demands discourse, is it the Other who is suffering, or the Self? I’m confused..
Apart from all of my confusion, I loved the way the author went into detailed analysis of each character and how his in-depth discussion ended in a conclusion of the “hierarchical relationship” of Singer ‘s dependence on Antonopoulos and the other’s dependence on Singer. But if all of the characters, including Singer, look to totalize someone who cannot respond to them, maybe Bradshaw’s message (or McCullers!) lies in the destructive tendencies influenced by language. If language didn’t exist for Singer to have a one-sided conversation with Antonopoulos, and for the others to have a one-sided conversation with Singer, then maybe their tendency to totalize the Other would lessen and the terrible loneliness would therefore lessen or be gone entirely. So maybe the argument is against language?
And I'm sorry this is a few minutes late, I got a little excited with that last bit
Fugue and Counterpoint--Does contrapuntal writing really have its place in literature?
My post about this article may be, perhaps, straying a bit too far from the specifics of Fuller's argument but the more I think about McCuller's use of contrapuntal form in a novel which conveys such deep, abstract feelings, the more skepticism I have for this technique's place in literature. I am not at all arguing that McCullers is unsuccessful or even careless in her choice to use strict musical form in order to embellish the content of her novel. Rather, my skepticism is based off the criticisms that many successors of Bach and Mozart who were practitioners of contrapuntal writing--specifically fugue--suffered from. We know that Beethoven amongst Mozart plays an important role in this novel; Mick is touched greatly by the "Eroica Symphony" and hears Mozart in her head all day and night. What is important to know, however, is that Beethoven (in his third period) was criticized for his usage of contrapuntal writing such as fugue (which is present in the "Eroica Symphony" though he was not criticised for this) and variations on themes (the "Diabelli Variations", specifically) which Mozart was greatly known for doing. By this point in the early 19th century fugue, variation, and other strict contrapuntal techniques were associated with connotations of dry academicism and even amateurism; this was the beginning of the Romantic movement in Europe. During this time the usage of music in literature was not uncommon. The application of musical motifs to characters in various novels and as a re-occurring symbol is a technique commonly used by Goethe, one of the most well-known German Romantics. The idea of combining music and literature was far more abstract in this period and the usage of such strict form as McCullers uses would be contrary to the Romantic style of the time. What I am trying to say is that perhaps McCullers's use of musical form (though I am perfectly aware that she is not a Romantic writer) may work in successfully shaping the content of the novel and embellishing certain parts, though I am led to wonder if such strict musical form depletes the amount of expressionism--an aspect I see as vital considering that the feelings of loneliness and disconnect with the world are imensely abstract, too abstract to shape into the form of a fugue--in the novel.
The Paradox of the Need for Privacy and the Need for Understanding
I know that was long and sort of confusing but basically I have questions on the way the author chooses to word his ideas and would like to see if there are those who disagree or agree with me. I’m not saying that I disagree with what he is saying, the very opposite actually, but I do not agree with the way he chooses to word some of his ideas.
SO first of all, do you believe that the author is right when he states that although she “was only 21 when she wrote this book, she was too mature to condemn abstractions either”? Why and why not? And do you also believe that the author is right to say that “The portrait of Mick is complete”? Although we have not fully read the text I believe that there is this mystery about her that leaves her portrait incomplete… HELP ME because I am thoroughly confusing myself. Thank youu :)
The Paradox of the Need for Privacy and the Need for Understanding
The Paradox of the Need for Privacy and the Need for Understanding
Because characters such as Copeland and Blount are caught up in their desire for one “true purpose”, they fail to fulfill their need of understanding and compassion by others, in fear others will not understand. People find comfort in talking to Singer, because he does not respond, or disagree. By speaking to Singer, characters attempt to fulfill their need for human understanding, yet do not have to worry about possible rejection or alienation.
Madden proposes that individuals fighting for a cause to be understood are alienated, yet given unintentional privacy by pushing away others. People who conform to society are accepted, but are they truly understood if they change themselves to fit in? The article seems to display a pessimistic view regarding a balance between privacy and understanding, as the author believes it can not be attained.
Fugue and Conterpoint
"While critics in general note the frequent direct references to music in her works, most of them focus on the way music functions as a "minor symbol" and as an "extended correlative" or mirror of theme and character. Few critics, however, have examined music's role as "architectural framework.""
~ Janice Fuller in "The Conventions of Counterpoint and Fugue in The Heart is a Lonely Hunter"
Music is generally thought of as being composed mainly of lyrics and techno beats, but there is much more to musical conventions than what is commonly heard in popular music. Rather, as we have seen in The Heart is a Lonely Hunter, musical conventions can be used to send a message, to convey the tone and meaning of a work. In fact, these aspects of music can be as important, or even more important than the words themselves.
As we have seen, though each character in the novel is dealing with loneliness and the "insurmountable isolation of human beings," this theme really comes together with the musical structure of the novel in which each character's voice is intermingled with the rest, echoing the same sentiments and ideals. Their individual problems and concerns are alternately amplified and deafened by those around them.
To what extend do lyrics, that is the words associated with the music (in this case the text of the novel), play a role, and are the conventions behind them more important?
Black and White Christs in Carson McCullers's "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter"
This isn't to say that racial tension isn't an aspect of her argument, because in fact it is the basis of it, but i feel like there is more here then that...I cant figure out a way to explain the connection between racial tension and Christ without disagreeing with myself.
Language and Responsibility: The Failure of Discourse in Carson McCuller's The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter
Mostly, I am confused about the explanations that start off the essay. When Levinas's concept is applied to the characters in the book, I think it's fascinating and makes complete sense, adds a new dimension to the story. For whatever reason I don't feel like I've been able to fully grasp his theory of psychology when it is standing alone and not in terms of the book (perhaps you would think it should be the other way around).
"The self naturally reduces, or totalizes the Other into digestible concepts- concepts which can be used by the self to construct a distorted identity from a complex existance"---
This confuses me. Does this mean that the Self cannot ever percieve the Other without "digesting" it first? As if we are not comfortable with things until we can develop a personal perception of them, or a "concept" that is digestible to us as individuals? And what does he mean by a concept? Is there an example of that? And "Form a "complex existance"-- as in we form percepteions and these then complicate our existance? Thinking of it this way makes sense in terms of the "Face" concept I think, for example this sentence- "The relation with the face can surely be dominated by perception"...
But then this "Face" also confuses me- "the basis for the Other's resistance to the Self's totalizing tendencies"- so the face is the broad then, or what we comprehend before we form perception, and then the Other is a perception of a specific thing or person- as it is tainted by the way we percieve it and therefore becomes "totalized"?
Here- "Face which demands discourse as a means to escape the reductictive tendencies of the self"- I think that he is relating Reducing to Digesting, right? But why does this then "demand discourse"?
I also don't understand this line, direct from Levinas: "The saying is a way of greeting the Other, but to greet the Other is already to answer for him"
---There are so many examples in the text of what Levinas goes on to describe- "It is difficult to be silent in someone's prescense...It is necessary to speak of something, of the rain and fine weather, no matter what, but to speak, to respond to him and already to answer for him" ...I just don't understand this automatic "answer for him" part of it.
"as Self uses discourse to create a relationship with the Other, meaning is constantly deferred, forcing the Self to totalize...." I don't understand why the meaning is necessarily "deferred" by this in the relationship between the Self and the Other.
I'm sorry, I realize that this is way too much to hash out on the blog. We can talk about them later better, but it seems that I am just confused mainly about the larger ideas in the essay: the difference between the Face and the Other (as we tried to tackle it in class) and how the relationship with the self is different in each.
Privacy and Understanding
Fugue and Counterpoint in THiaLH
The Paradox of the Need for Privacy and the Need for Understanding
Fugue and Counterpoint
"This book is planned according to a definite and balanced design. The form is contrapuntal throughout. Like a voice in a fugue each one of the main characters is an entirety in himself - but his personality takes on a new richness when contrasted and woven in with the other characters in the book."
-- McCullers (quoted by Fuller in "The Conventions of Fugue and Counterpoint")
It's difficult to doubt the musical influence of McCuller's novel - Mick's greatest weakness is the classical music on the radio; the first character's name is "Singer"; "She started on the same tune and said the same thing over and over..." (McCullers, 50); the list goes on.
Similarly, the presence of counterpoint and fugue is hard to ignore - the book's characters tell their stories in a very similar, repeating manner, much as a musical fugue repeats its components to create a new piece that is harmonically sound.
Take, for example, the fact that each chapter in part I begins with a description of the specific time of day: "On a black sultry night in early summer Biff Brennon stood...(13); "the sun woke Mick early..." (33); "late in the afternoon Jake Blount awoke...(53)". Similarly, in part II, each chapter (thus far) begins with a description of the season - "this summer was different..." (97) and "by October the days were blue and cool" (121)
Still, my question is whether or not these elements of counterpoint and fugue allow each character to "take on new richness" or blend them all into one. On the one hand, the similar yet different manners in which the characters act contrast to highlight each of their differences. Yet, on the other hand, much like a musical fugue, each individual part refrains from being it's own piece and begins to blend together in a conforming manner. Do the characters conform or stand out as a result of McCuller's musical composition?
The Paradox of the Need for Privacy and the Need for Understanding
The Paradox of the Need for Privacy and the Need for Understanding - Does the author refute his own argument?
As we spoke of paradox we began to discuss this idea that many of the characters go to Singer to talk to - more for their own benefit than Singer's. Madden even says that the Doctor Copeland " was more at peace when he could talk to the uncomprehending deaf-mute, Singer. " (6).
Perhaps it is just me, but it seems like Madden is refuting his own idea. In the beginning Madden said that everyone hungers for human understanding, yet towards the end explains that Copeland prefered it when he talked to someone who didn't understand. Doesn't this evidence seem to contradict his own idea?